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Premarital Agreement

The Collaborative Premarital Agreement Process – A Better Way to Start a Marriage

July 27, 2022 By Diana Martinez

As more and more couples are waiting longer to marry, California lawyers are seeing an increase in requests for Premarital (also called Prenuptial) Agreements. By the time they get married, many people already have assets, such as retirement accounts and real property, and some even have children from a prior relationship. During the COVID19 pandemic, many people experienced the downsides of not having a premarital agreement and/or updated estate plan; with the loss of remarried loved ones, they also lost their family legacy to a stepparent or step grandparent. In one case, mom passed away quickly and, having no “prenup” or estate plan, stepdad, by default, got mom’s premarital assets. Result? Her two adult sons (who did not get along with stepdad) were given a couple of jet skis and were told to go away. Stepdad kept the family home, mom’s car, bank accounts, and personal belongings. You never think it will happen to you, until it does.

Despite its negative reputation, prenups can be an opportunity to plan for a successful marriage, to have a voice in the management of separate property assets during the marriage and to create a joint plan for separate and community property assets in the event either spouse predeceases the other as well as in the event of separation or divorce.

The word “prenup” can be a trigger given the “traditional” process: two lawyers, each in private session with their client, the first drafting a proposed agreement that strongly favors her client (who likely has more money and assets than the other party), the second receiving the draft agreement, explaining to his client how grossly unfair it is to her, and editing the agreement in favor of his client. This continues back and forth until the attorneys confirm that their clients have approved a final draft. The experience can be so negative, that the relationship is harmed rather than strengthened.

This process feels adversarial for a couple of reasons. First, the negotiations start from a competitive position, in favor of the initiating party. The receiving party then mirrors that behavior, given how outrageously unfair the first draft was. And they continue until they find a middle ground. While less extreme than the initial draft, there often remain provisions that leave one party feeling insulted or hurt.

Second, direct communication between the couple rarely happens and is typically not productive. Given how uncomfortable many couples are in talking about things like money, they will avoid direct discussions and only speak on such topics through their lawyers. Not only does this set a poor model for communication and problem-solving during the marriage, it’s also a time-consuming and expensive way to create the agreement itself.

Enter the Collaborative Premarital Agreement Process, which looks something like this:

Premarital Agreement Process

Sam calls lawyer Diana for a prenup. Diana tells Sam it’s important for fiancée Jo to have a lawyer as well, and that Jo may want to look into finding a collaborative lawyer. Diana sends Sam some information on the collaborative process, and they schedule their first meeting. If Jo hasn’t yet retained a lawyer, Jo is invited to that meeting. The first meeting is limited to discussing the process options – the actual negotiation of the agreement will take place only when Jo has retained a lawyer. If Jo already has a lawyer, both lawyers will meet to create the process for collaborative discussions.

Diana (and Jo’s collaborative lawyer if already retained) will jointly explain the collaborative process to co-create the Premarital agreement, which includes:

  • Jo and Sam meeting with both collaborative lawyers individually and in 4-way meetings. Often, a neutral family specialist (a therapist) and/or a neutral financial professional is/are brought in as well. This is a client-driven process, with the collaborative professionals helping the couple co-create an agreement that meets their individual and shared interests and goals.
  • Sam and Jo exchanging full financial disclosures with each other. Full financial disclosure is required for all premarital agreements to ensure that both parties are making informed decisions. This is key to an enforceable agreement.
  • The collaborative professionals guiding the couple through productive and respectful discussions, making sure that neither feels pressured. Another key piece that judges look for when enforcing prenups is the validity of the agreement which depends, in large part, on the voluntary and informed participation of each party. That means that neither was coerced, under duress, or mis-informed; that both had the time, space, and information to calmly review and understand each part of the agreement.
  • The collaborative professionals facilitating the discussions to help the couple build the financial foundation of their marriage. The focus is the relationship and future health of their family.
  • The couple speaking individually and confidentially with their individual collaborative lawyers AND with each other directly, with the support of their collaborative professionals.
  • The collaborative lawyers jointly drafting the Premarital Agreement for the couple to review. There may additional revisions as well as meetings to go over the agreement as needed, and then the signing ceremony with everyone present (or not – it’s really up to the couple).

How is this a better way to start a marriage?

  1. Collaboration. Working together creates an environment where everyone supports shared goals and understanding. There is no unknown lawyer promoting an extreme position.
  2. Direct Communication. Productive direct communication results in stronger and more complete solutions and reduces legal fees by eliminating the time it takes for party A to communicate to his attorney who then communicates to party B’s attorney who then communicates to party B and reverse for the response.
  3. Interest-Based Discussions. Where the traditional approach is position-driven (my house stays my house no matter what), the collaborative approach focuses on interests. For example, I want us to share my house during our marriage and preserve it as a legacy for my children. The couple in the collaborative model are encouraged to discuss both non-financial interests as well as their financial interests. The resulting agreements are more likely to satisfy the interests of both and create a foundation for a long and happy marriage.

There is no one-size-fits-all when it comes to creating your premarital agreement. The collaborative process strives to create a more productive and inclusive model than the traditional adversarial process of one-sided bargaining. The collaborative process can be tailored to the needs of the specific couple and can be started individually with the family specialist and/or each person’s collaborative lawyer to work through hidden interest and how best to present them. This process also sets the framework for working through difficult discussions moving forward, thereby setting a foundation for a successful marriage.

Filed Under: Blog Tagged With: Agreement, Communication, Legal Fees, Marriage, Premarital Agreement, Process

Why a Collaborative Pre-nup Makes Cents

April 24, 2017 By CDSOC

by Suanne I. Honey Attorney at Law, CFLS, Mediator and Collaborative Attorney

Sorry for the silly pun when this is such a serious topic. Seriously, though, pre-nuptial agreements are hot topics which give rise to many emotions.

“It paints the Devil on the wall.”

“It is anticipating failure of the marriage.”

“If he or she really loved me, this would not be necessary.”

“I am uncomfortable talking about finances.”

The list can go on and on. Sometimes emotions are an unnecessary waste of energy. Other times emotions have some benefits, even negative emotions. For example, fear in a dark alley in a dangerous neighborhood will cause you to be zealously vigilant about your surroundings which will lead you into taking appropriate steps for your safety … much like the pre-nuptial agreement itself.

Unfortunately, statistics today are not favorable for a lasting marriage. If and when there is a decision to get divorced, the person you once loved turns into the enemy. There is often a total lack of trust at the time of a divorce. There are fights over money, property, and other issues creating stress for both partners. This stress almost always filters down to the children.

Collaborative Law is a process where couples work with a team of expert professionals.

The mental-health professionals work individually with each partner to a marriage (or a potential marriage). They help curb their emotions and phrase their individual needs and wants in a positive, cooperative and logical way, allowing those needs and wants to really be heard and understood by the other partner.

The financial professional will be able to identify and sort out the financial and property issues of concern to the couple in a transparent and logical way.

The Collborative Practice attorneys will help guide their clients through the legal quagmire. This can all be done in a much less stressful, more cooperative way in the collaborative arena.

While important, none of that is the real reason that Collaborative pre-nups make the most “cents.”

The biggest reason for marriages to fail is the breakdown in communication. Having gone through a divorce in the Collaborative law process, many (if not most) participants say if they’d gone through this process before the marriage, the divorce would be much less likely.

So it makes “cents” to have your pre-nuptial agreement created in the Collaborative setting. Because of the communication skills learned by the couple during the process, it may help avoid a future divorce altogether. This saves a great deal of “cents” paid to attorneys and litigation, or future Collaborative Divorce costs.

Even if the unthinkable happens and there is a future divorce, you will come out ahead. Having learned how to conduct difficult conversations in a way that allows your spouse to hear and understand your position, even discussing issues in the divorce process that were not part of the original prenup will save many “cents.”

Most importantly, the stress level exposed to any children during your divorce will be significantly reduced. This is an outcome which is “priceless.”

Filed Under: Collaborative Divorce, Collaborative Practice, Divorce and Emotions, Divorce and Money, Financial Tagged With: Alternative Dispute Resolution, CDSOC, Divorce, Divorce Agreement, Divorce and Stress, Divorce Counseling, Financial Agreement, Marriage, Premarital Agreement, Suanne Honey

12 Reasons To Create Your Premarital Agreement Using the Collaborative Process

March 6, 2017 By CDSOC

by Leslee J. Newman, CFL-S, Family Law Attorney
Orange, California

  • Each premarital partner selects their own Collaborative attorney to represent him or her from the very beginning of the premarital Collaborative Process. You and your Collaborative attorney work together until the premarital agreement is completed and signed.
  • Neutral professionals such as a financial planner and/or a Collaborative coach may also be added to your Collaborative team to help you and your partner develop and fully understand your goals as a couple, and the legal and financial ramifications of your decisions.
  • Before any drafting takes place, you and your partner are encouraged to express your thoughts and concerns about what you plan to build together as joint property and what you want to maintain as separate property.
  • Full disclosure of the property and debts of each premarital partner is exchanged including some verification of each asset and each debt.
  • After full discussion, disclosure, and agreement is reached by the premarital couple, the agreement is drafted through the participation of both Collaborative attorneys.
  • After the draft of the premarital agreement is completed, the draft is fully discussed and explained to each premarital partner by his or her Collaborative attorney.
  • Additional drafts and revisions are encouraged by the Collaborative team until both members of the premarital couple are fully educated and satisfied with your agreement.
  • The Collaborative Process takes most of the stress out of the creation of a premarital agreement at a time when you are undergoing the tension and burden of planning your wedding.
  • With the premarital agreement completed, you can concentrate on your wedding plans, the joy of your wedding day, and your honeymoon.
  • After you are married, if there are any changes you wish to make to your property or financial planning, you can return to any of the members of your Collaborative team for assistance.
  • If you should divorce, your premarital agreement should be enforceable by California law because of the guidance of your Collaborative professionals, and the multiple opportunities you each had to discuss, question, and revise your agreement.
  • In the event a divorce occus, the Agreement should serve as a roadmap to simplify your divorce, make it move along more quickly and in most cases make it less expensive. Additionally, you may stay in the Collaborative Process for your divorce agreement, with some or all of the original Collaborative professionals assisting you who already know you and your spouse.

Filed Under: Collaborative Divorce, Collaborative Practice, Divorce and Money, Divorce and The Law, Financial Tagged With: Agreement, Financial Agreement, Leslee Newman, Less Expensive Divorce, Marriage, Planning, Premarital Agreement

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